Claims that Mr Joseph Murphy snr knew Mr George Redmond and that he was aware the former Dublin city and county manager was allegedly assisting his companies in the 1980s were dismissed as "a pack of lies" by the Murphy group founder in evidence.
The evidence read out from the transcripts of the Guernsey hearings contained denials by Mr Murphy snr that he was aware of alleged negotiations and meetings that took place in the lead up to the selling of Murphy lands to Mr Michael Bailey, as Mr James Gogarty had claimed.
Mr Frank Callanan SC, for Mr Gogarty, suggested that Mr Murphy was in an awkward situation in 1988 because he was trying to take back the company and get rid of then chief executive, Mr Liam Conroy, but he knew Mr Conroy had had communications with the local authority about planning permission on the lands and had been in communication with Mr George Redmond.
Mr Murphy said he had never heard of Mr Redmond until the tribunal and had also never heard of Mr Michael Bailey.
Mr Callanan put it to him that Mr Gogarty in evidence said that Mr Murphy got Mr Bailey to set up an arrangement between Mr Gogarty and Mr Redmond.
"Not at all. That's all ridiculous, a pack of cut-throats," said Mr Murphy. He also denied that there had been a consultancy arrangement between JMSE and Mr Redmond. He dismissed as "a pack of lies" the claim that Mr Gogarty spoke to him after he [Mr Gogarty] had met Mr Redmond.
Mr Callanan also asked if he was also rejecting Mr Gogarty's evidence that Mr Gogarty and Mr Joseph Murphy jnr met Mr Redmond.
"Of course I do. It's so full of lies that it's making me ill, more ill than I am," Mr Murphy replied.
Mr Callanan put it to him that it was inconceivable that he was not aware that Mr Redmond was assisting his companies in relation to the expiration of the Forest Road planning permission.
"I was not aware of it and for the fifth time, I never heard the name, and I repeat for the fifth time, the name of Redmond until this tribunal started," Mr Murphy said.
Mr Callanan put it to him that Mr Gogarty had concerns about the company accounts for 1987 and that at a meeting in 1989, Mr Murphy snr and Mr Roger Copsey, financial controller, had made it clear to Mr Gogarty that his pension would be in jeopardy if he did not sign them.
"Not at all," Mr Murphy said. "I never threatened that man in my life. I never had any rough words with him."
Mr Callanan turned to Mr Murphy's tax affairs and put it to him that the setting up of an Irish trust was an attempt to avoid liability on his part to Irish taxation. "Total trash," said Mr Murphy.
Mr Callanan put it to him that he was well aware then that his tax affairs would not bear a moment's scrutiny and that his tax advisers were also well aware of that.
"Of course they stand scrutiny. Nothing wrong or hidden or deceitful about my trusts. They were properly, legally established trusts and I didn't have any . . . deprive any Revenue of anything," Mr Murphy said. Questioned further, Mr Murphy said everything was straight and above board. He paid his taxes wherever he was, paid them in full and did not avail of any loopholes. He denied that he was extremely concerned and alarmed at the contents of an affidavit sworn by Mr Conroy that made allegations about Mr Murphy's tax affairs. These allegations were later withdrawn in a settlement agreement.
Mr Callanan put it to him that he was prepared to discount the value of the lands in north Dublin because the extent of the trust's exposure and his own exposure to taxation far exceeded the amount by which the value of the lands was discounted.
Mr Murphy replied: "That's completely and utterly false. I had no worry about the lands, I hadn't any urgency or reason to discount lands. That's all hogwash."