RTE tape of plea to Carthy to be played today

A Longford woman begged Mr John Carthy to leave his house and gave out personal information about his relationship with a former…

A Longford woman begged Mr John Carthy to leave his house and gave out personal information about his relationship with a former girlfriend in a radio interview broadcast minutes before Mr Carthy's death.

A tape of the interview, which was part of RTÉ's Five Seven Live programme the day of the shooting, will be played in evidence to the Barr tribunal this morning.

Ms Mary McDowell, described as a friend of Mr Carthy's, was interviewed by RTÉ reporter Niall O'Flynn some time after 5 p.m. on April 20th, 2000, the second day of the armed siege.

During the interview O'Flynn asked Ms McDowell if she had a message for Mr Carthy.

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Addressing him directly, she said: "Come out, everybody loves you. Everybody's thinking about you and worrying about you and you are a good friend and you've lots of friends. So please, John, please come out."

Ms McDowell also told the reporter that Mr Carthy had being going out with a girl from Mayo and that they might get back together if Mr Carthy gave up smoking and drinking.

Shortly after this broadcast, Mr Carthy emerged from the house and was shot dead by gardaí.

Mr John Rogers, counsel for the gardaí, last Friday broke from questioning former chief superintendent Mr Patrick Tansey to insist that the interview be heard as soon as possible because of its "vital significance" to the evidence.

The interview, which was first alluded to during the evidence of Supt Joseph Shelly last Tuesday, had been conducted without the knowledge or consent of the gardaí, Mr Rogers said.

The chair of the tribunal,Mr Justice Robert Barr, agreed that the interview could be separated from other media broadcasts relating to the Abbeylara siege and heard this morning.

The tapes will be piped directly into the tribunal this morning before Mr Rogers continues with his questioning of Mr Tansey.

Further broadcasts will be aired later in the evidence.

Olivia Kelly

Olivia Kelly

Olivia Kelly is Dublin Editor of The Irish Times