Dublin pub owner says survival depends on wage subsidy scheme

Gleesons pub in Booterstown would lose two-thirds of capacity under social distancing

The owners of Gleesons in Booterstown in south Dublin estimate that it could accommodate perhaps 90 customers at one time under social-distancing rules.
The owners of Gleesons in Booterstown in south Dublin estimate that it could accommodate perhaps 90 customers at one time under social-distancing rules.

One of Dublin’s leading publicans has said the Covid-19 wage subsidy scheme will need to be extended until the end of this year if publicans are to have a chance of surviving financially under social-distancing rules.

John Gleeson, the co-owner of Gleesons pub and restaurant in Booterstown, south Dublin, said it would be able to operate only to about a third of its pre-crisis level due to social-distancing protocols.

“On a busy day before the lockdown restrictions were introduced, Gleesons could accommodate up to 250 people seated and about another 100 standing,” Mr Gleeson told Inside Business, a podcast from The Irish Times.

“Under these arrangements, we’ve worked out that there’ll be nobody standing around, and with the social distancing 80 or 90 people max in the place. We have a big car park and hopefully we can bring some of the tables and the chairs that we’re not using in the pub out to the car park if there’s a nice summer.

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“But if you operate at one-third of your [normal] business on a Friday or Saturday night, that’s very hard to make money on. And it’s not as if with one-third of business you can do [with] one-third of your staff.

Gleesons pub and restaurant in Booterstown, south Dublin.
Gleesons pub and restaurant in Booterstown, south Dublin.

“We’ll have to have extra waiting staff if no one is coming to the counter. It doesn’t sound like a rosy option picture but what’s the option?

“We would need the Government to maintain the wage subsidy scheme, there’s no doubt about that. Once you open the doors doesn’t mean that businesses will be self-sufficient in their wage structure. I would envisage the wage subsidy scheme for all bars and restaurants around the country will have to continue until at least Christmas.”

Opening date

Donal O'Keeffe, chief executive of the Licensed Vintners Association (LVA), called on the Government to allow pubs to reopen on June 29th, the date set aside for restaurants to begin trading again. At present, pubs are slated to reopen on August 10th, some five months after they closed as part of the lockdown of the economy to prevent the spread of the virus.

“It’s our view that all hospitality businesses should be subject to the same conditions and have the same opportunities to reopen at the same time,” he said.

The LVA, which has 550 members in Dublin, is finalising its pub recovery plan, which it hopes to present to Government Ministers later this week.

The wage subsidy scheme was introduced in March for an initial 12 weeks, and is helping to keep more than 400,000 workers in employment. Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe indicated on Wednesday that the scheme would be reduced in the weeks ahead.

Brothers John and Ciaran Gleeson, owners of Gleesons pub and restaurant in Booterstown, south Dublin.
Brothers John and Ciaran Gleeson, owners of Gleesons pub and restaurant in Booterstown, south Dublin.

Gleesons employed 55 staff before the lockdown. Ten of those are on the wage subsidy scheme, while the rest are on unemployment benefit. The company also operates a 16-bed townhouse, which is closed, and a deli, which remains open. It has provided takeaway food for staff dealing with Covid-19 patients at St Vincent’s hospital in recent weeks.

“We will be re-employing, hopefully on June 29th, 25 of them,” Mr Gleeson said. “We intend to take bookings for tables, two hours maybe per table, a couple of sittings per night but we already see there is a demand there to get back in.”

Ciarán Hancock

Ciarán Hancock

Ciarán Hancock is Business Editor of The Irish Times