‘We were voted No 4 in the world and No 1 in Ireland’

Small Business Inside Track Q&ATiago Mascarenhas, co-founder of English-language school Seda College

Tiago Mascarenhas, co-founder of English language school Seda College
Tiago Mascarenhas, co-founder of English language school Seda College

What is unique about your business? The number of students we have, and the fact that we have created our own sales channels. The college has 2,000 students every year from about 40 countries, including Brazil, Spain, Italy, Mexico, Argentina, South Korea, Malawi, Japan, Taiwan and South Africa.

Our website is in seven different languages, and Seda has offices in Brazil, Venezuela, Mexico and Chile, all of which market Ireland and the college as a study destination for English-language students.

What has been your biggest challenge? A number of English-language schools that closed in Ireland last year. It was difficult for us, as students were wanting to go to study at universities such as UCD that they knew weren't going to go out of business.

We were getting lots of questions asking if we were going to close, and what guarantees we could give. With all the bad publicity about language schools closing down, I approached the bank about a bond facility, so students could feel more secure. It would have been a complicated process. We have since got insurance instead.

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We are the first language school to be accepted by an insurance provider. If we close down in the morning, the students will all get their money back.

What has been your biggest success? We came from nothing, with no support, and now Seda is one of the biggest language schools in Ireland. We were voted number four in the world and number one in Ireland based on reviews on EducationStars.com, an independent ratings agency for schools worldwide.

What's the biggest mistake you've made in business? Not listening to people, especially those who have been in business longer than I have. Sometimes I'm a bit stubborn. I did an MBA when I was 21 against the advice of people I worked with and my university professor. They said I was too young and wouldn't benefit from it. I refused to accept this.

I was too young. I didn’t have the professional or life experience necessary and didn’t benefit from it.

What key piece of advice would you give to someone starting a business? It is better to be the owner of 1 per cent of something, than 100 per cent of nothing. I got that advice from my mentor at the Dublin City Enterprise Board. Another piece of advice I think is good is: you do more when you do less, which I got from a documentary about Steve Jobs called Billion Dollar Hippy. Basically, you shouldn't do too many things at the same time.

Who do you admire most in business and why? Steve Jobs. He created something from nothing and overcame all the obstacles. I think he is very similar to John Rockefeller. He created his own distribution system for Standard Oil.

In your experience, are the banks lending to SMEs currently? When Seda started, we got a 35-year lease. We had to pay a few months' rent as a deposit. It was 2009 and the banks weren't open. We had to reinvest all the money we made back into the business. We couldn't get an overdraft or loan.

What advice would you give to the Government? They should talk to small companies more. We joined the Irish Exporters 'Association last year. The support we get from them, we never got from the Government.

What is the short-term future of your business? We have signed a partnership with National College of Ireland, which will allow Seda students transition to undergraduate and postgraduate programmes at NCI. We also want to get a new quality mark from the Government.

What's your business worth and would you sell it? It's worth everything to me because I absolutely love what I do. We have no plans to sell. In fact, we plan to expand further in the coming years – at home and abroad.

In conversation with Pamela Newenham